Dock seemingly blocked by invisible wall, but not edge of map

Fixed
Captain Zuff Captain Zuff · 4 years ago

Issue description

Thanks to JD-Plays for this:
Trying to build a dock here:
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Getting red squares everywhere, "Something is in the way"
Yet I can dump past this point:
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This corner is FAR from the original coastline, yet on the backside:
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Map settings: Default except 25% bonus resources AND 25% lower sea floor

Expected behavior

To be able to build the dock there

Game version

v0.4.8

Attachments

Save file: cant_build_dock.save

Files not imported: cant_build_dock.save

Captain Zuff Captain Zuff · 4 years ago

It may not be a bug but its hard to tell where the end of the buildable area is. Maybe if the dock is blocked because of edge of map, tell the user that instead of "Something is in the way"

JD-Plays [github] · 4 years ago

or a Hard limit for placing extra tiles and a soft limit on the shipyards/docks extending past that, as those tiles are not used by the trucks at all

ParanoikCZE [github] · 4 years ago

For me, it would make sense to have an end of terraformable map that differs from the buildable area. So even with max expanded island, you would be able to build on any edge.

JamieRCHI [github] · 4 years ago

I have this problem with the corners of the Curland Map. I think the bounding box of the map should be a rectangle.
I can't move the view into the corners or place anything there. It's also like the ocean floor is too shallow there.
I thought it was due to playing with a Mod, but apparently not. I am currently playing with the Captain of Cheats mod.
90 Curland Sandbox Too.save

Files not imported: 90 Curland Sandbox Too.save

JamieRCHI [github] · 4 years ago

It may not be a bug but its hard to tell where the end of the buildable area is. Maybe if the dock is blocked because of edge of map, tell the user that instead of "Something is in the way"

I use the yellow Mining Squares to show where the edge of the map is and to see how deep it is in these areas.
Doing this also helps when trying to troubleshoot placement of Docks.

Work Around: This requires using the Captain of Cheats mod so most people won't want to do this.
I add mining squares at level -10 near the area I want to place a dock. I then use the 'Instant Mine' feature with the default option set to Not use normal game physics. Click the Instant Mine button and the problem goes away.

Note that when we get the ability to edit our maps, this problem should be fixable in the possible future Map Editor.

Picture of how I use the Mining squares to look at the map edges.
Corner of Curland Map

emdas20 [github] · 4 years ago

hola un pregunta como saber de ante mano cual es el limite de expandir la isla y donde se puede construir, hay alguna forma?

lowstrife [github] · 4 years ago

Another thing I'd like to point out.

Reloading the map will extend this bugged limit. I have continually re-loaded my map over the past several weeks. Here is a old screenshot showing the previous limit:

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And while I haven't made huge progress believe me, I've extended the landfilled area well beyond where the game wouldn't let me before.

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In all situations, I've been able to extend the limiting boundary by simply just saving the game and fully reloading it. And continue landfilling and expanding the land available.

As we can see here, the object in the way perfectly contours to the land which I've created... reloading the game gives me another 3-4 tiles of room before I'm limited again.

188989573-fb6dda61-474a-453b-b91d-1f0759124afe.mp4

Here are two save files. They are separated by a reasonable amount of time. The old picture I posted above is from weeks ago and I don't have saves from that long ago to have a larger contrast, sorry.

New Mappy.save
New Mappy.save

Files not imported: New Mappy.save, New Mappy.save, 188989573-fb6dda61-474a-453b-b91d-1f0759124afe.mp4

emdas20 [github] · 4 years ago

Otra cosa que me gustaría señalar.

Recargar el mapa extenderá este límite de errores. He recargado continuamente mi mapa durante las últimas semanas. Aquí hay una captura de pantalla antigua que muestra el límite anterior:

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Y aunque no he hecho grandes progresos, créanme, he extendido el área del vertedero mucho más allá de donde el juego no me lo permitía antes.

imagen

En todas las situaciones, he podido extender el límite limitante simplemente guardando el juego y recargándolo por completo. Y seguir rellenando y ampliando los terrenos disponibles.

Como podemos ver aquí, el objeto en el camino se adapta perfectamente a la tierra que he creado... recargar el juego me da otras 3-4 fichas de espacio antes de que esté limitado nuevamente.

Capitán_de_la_industria_2022-09-07_15-49-34.mp4
Aquí hay dos archivos guardados. Están separados por una cantidad razonable de tiempo. La imagen antigua que publiqué arriba es de hace semanas y no tengo guardados de hace mucho tiempo para tener un mayor contraste, lo siento.

New Mappy.save New Mappy.save

gracias por las partidas guardadas, estan muy impresionante, cual mapa es el original?

Files not imported: New Mappy.save, New Mappy.save

emdas20 [github] · 4 years ago

You Shall Not Pass

thanks for the saved games, they are very impressive, which map is the original?

emdas20 [github] · 4 years ago

El mapa es No pasarás.

thanks and sorry for my confusion

Captain Filip Captain Filip · 3 years ago

This issue has been fixed in Update 1 after we added buffer areas around map edges. Thanks for your report!

Closed as ✅ Fixed

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