Train Unloaders shouldn't require workers or suck idle power

i dont like that stations are 20% of my power usage

without paying a massive penalty in workers that makes the train useless

I wouldnt go as far as massive, compare it to trucks and ore sorting plants

see the various screenshots

of people doing a typical first station with 9 loaders and then 9 at the unloader site

that's 18 trucks

not even saving a single worker over straight trucks

plus 2 more in each train

having watched today's dev stream I sorta see a way around this using a ton of more complex track

but again, just do conveyers, this makes no sense

then i have 12 worker in the ore sorters for that station

Like i get its a big deal compared to belts, but i dont think it is when compared to the rest of the factory

Where as early game, power consumption can be a problem

each playthrough I've done the workers are generally the limiting factor

It is, but you're still saving on workers compared to avoiding the train

no you're not

that's the problem, even marginally more workers on metal and maintenance won't be more than the huge amount you saved via the conveyer

Fair. Maybe stations with modules should have a worker per 2 modules?

Hard to bill, but a worker or 2 in the station office wouldn't penalize you for having long trains and dedicated loaders per car

right now there's a massive penalty to do that. but if you use short trains, you end up being forced to make them 1 single car long

like was show in the dev stream, giving you a mediocre truck

(since 2 drivers per locomotive while a truck has 1)

https://hub.coigame.com/Blueprint/Detail/649

ah the first BP is up, and see : 36 workers stand around all day, which is a pretty severe penalty

and apparently as you found, they consume a bunch of power mining bitcoin in their spare time or whatever it is they are doing

thats 1.8MW there, right?

4 of those and you get a mainframe computer

brickonkeyboard [discord] wrote:

https://hub.coigame.com/Blueprint/Detail/649

this blueprint is pretty excessive IMO

depending on the goods being moved, you only need 1-2 stations modules per good

mega stations like this are only useful if you want to unload all of that at once

mixed stations don't work properly, so yes, you need 1 module per car, it's not excessive. short trains require more workers than trucks

make a long train, but you only need 1-2 modules

I should mention that in the bug report

incorrect, that doesn't work

damn I better tear down the eight or so of these kinds of stations I have that work perfectly then

these are not mixed stations

I didn't mention mixed stations?

I suggested splitting stations up into smaller stations like this

as long as you get the access and egress sorted, it works smoothly and takes up fewer workers

also these are probably also not saving maintenance or workers over conveyers

which is the bug report