Train Unloaders shouldn't require workers or suck idle power

brickonkeyboard [discord] wrote:

yes but pre-train, conveyers are 0 cost, essentially free, no maintenance, no workers, nothing for the lifts, storage, nada

pre train is kind of irrelevant now

conveyors are super expensive to build too

ihopethisisnt.taken [discord] wrote:

pre train is kind of irrelevant now

I was using it as an example of why workers matter balance wise

compared to trains

divisivedeadweight [discord] wrote:

I'd be happy with 1 workers for 2 module stations 3 for 3-4 modules etc, with like 20-40 power per, when in use

i dont even mind the 50 when in use but other than that i agree with that

a 16 long conveyor 2 costs 5 CP3 and 9 rubber. 5 CP 3 is basically 12 steel

12 steel + 18 rock + however much sand etc for the concrete

so it's a whole 60s of production from a t3 assembler

I think you're correct, but it's not an operating cost. a worker is a constant operating cost

same length of track takes up 2/3 the concrete and 1/3 the steel

and can be used for multiple goods

having a look at this screen

and similarly the locomotive is most efficient when the train is long, becuase it's still 2 workers

ignoring the cargo stuff, that's what? 120 workers

right, you could have another 120 trucks

that's not nothing

I agree it's more that it should be ideally

or essentially infinite conveyers

but my ore sorters are 150 and vital

technically it's however much maintenance 120 workers working in the various steps of the supply chain

right, you could have another 10 ore sorters, or half a nuclear reactor

tying up 120 workers is huge

brickonkeyboard [discord] wrote:

that's not nothing

And how many ore sorters?

depends on how much recycling, another thing that got nerfed lol

conveyor maintenance is about half a t2 maintenance building

the argument I'm kinda hearing here is "conveyors need a nerf so they're not as great long distance" 😛

(that and reducing module requirements)

my argument is that requiring a worker per module is so ridiculous it's a bug, end of argument, and it seems everyone agrees.

Can we change the title of the post to train unloaders should require fewer workers?