Train Unloaders shouldn't require workers or suck idle power

my steel is all the way up that ramp and ages away

absolutely saves on conveyors

do the math and check please

make sure you account for the maintenance per worker

divisivedeadweight [discord] wrote:

as long as you get the access and egress sorted, it works smoothly and takes up fewer workers

That's a constant 400kw right there, do you agree the power usage is an issue even if the workers arent?

Also I dont think splitting up routes like that is as good when we dont have smarter pathing for where to unload

so absolutely saves on MW just for steel

this requires 31 maintenance

Yeah stations need to be dropped to 25-35 power

They should be dropped to zero when idle, like any other building, or make it clear that stations are an exception

ihopethisisnt.taken [discord] wrote:

Also I dont think splitting up routes like that is as good when we dont have smarter pathing for where to unload

these are 4 separate stations, so where to unload works smoothly

I've had 0 issues with stations like this other than my own issues building them right off the main trainline

I think stations should require workers/power, based on modules, and it shouldn't be a flat 1 worker/50 power per

divisivedeadweight [discord] wrote:

this requires 31 maintenance

right but that's 4-20 workers, all the power, and the workers themselves need maintenance for the farms, consumer goods, medicine, unity, fertilizer, conveyers for all that. workers are expensive. plus you need however many trains it takes to get the same throughput as the conveyer, I've had trouble figuring this out but you need enough trains that the goods are always flowing, it could be 4 trains, each train with 4 cars they way you did it, so 5 maintenance each, or 20 total. see it's not saving anything.

divisivedeadweight [discord] wrote:

I've had 0 issues with stations like this other than my own issues building them right off the main trainline

fair enough

workers aren't my bottleneck

divisivedeadweight [discord] wrote:

I think stations should require workers/power, based on modules, and it shouldn't be a flat 1 worker/50 power per

I agree on 1 worker all the time or maybe 1 worker per 2 modules and 50 power while moving stuff

so you concur it's bugged like .. does

that's not a bug, it's a balance issue, but yes

divisivedeadweight [discord] wrote:

tbh extra workers are probably the exception

I don't agree that conveyors are superior to trains in every instance absolutely 100%

divisivedeadweight [discord] wrote:

that's not a bug, it's a balance issue, but yes

Its a bug because its the only building in the game that consumes power when not running without an explanation why (as far as i know)

ihopethisisnt.taken [discord] wrote:

tbh extra workers are probably the exception

yeah when I do a typical playthrough, while yes there are periods where I have plenty of workers, once you get nuclear, etc, you are ALWAYS having to pause stuff because you basically never have enough workers until the very end

they are a huge limiting factor

But that was part of the game before trains anyway..?

the extra mw for long distance mining wasnt

yes but pre-train, conveyers are 0 cost, essentially free, no maintenance, no workers, nothing for the lifts, storage, nada

all free

I'd be happy with 1 workers for 2 module stations 3 for 3-4 modules etc, with like 20-40 power per, when in use

and WITH that balance workers are still a limiting factor